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I wasn't saying that the word Halayl applied after the fall. That was the whole point... when you praise God and cry out Hallelujah, not only are you praising God with the highest praise possible, but you are also rubbing the nose of the Devil into what he threw away. Reference Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14.


I really like that, I never knew that. The way I was taught about satan's name Lucifer was that it meant bright and shining, like the way the serpent scales shine or glisten, how he can pretend to be an angel of light (2Corin. 11:14) like lunar a dead rock only reflecting the sun's light not his own light but appearing to give light. That it is like the word luminous, or to illuminate as in the tree of knowledge of good and evil. (and their eyes were opened, no longer clothed in light,becoming naked and ashamed ) ( The root Halay was never brought to my attention before it adds a lot more insight knowing that, thank you !) Like people trying to find eternal life through knowledge instead of through God. Like looking for the fountain of youth instead of looking for God and God adding to us everlasting life. Like with all the DNA research on cloning . I think the fallen angels did genetic experiments because of the bunch of grapes mentioned that it took two men to carry(Num.13:23). And the reason God ordered that everything be destroyed at times even the animals,(Deu.20:16,17:1Sam.15:3) that God had created perfect and through the meddling of fallen angels became polluted. (this makes me wonder about the UFO abductions we hear about) Like today when they mix the genetics of plants and animals and different animal genes , man is polluting what God had created perfect, and as a result we have more disease and food that is not nutritious so our bodies get sick and die faster then in a pure unpolluted world. (makes me think about if some of this knowledge man comes up with is from influences of evil spirits, I was taught that the evil spirits are the fallen angels spirits because their angelic bodies are in chains and only their spirits came come to man if invited in ) Man uses God's knowledge without God's wisdom. In trying to improve on what God created perfect , man causes corruption of himself and corruption to God's nature ( the natural world ). God wants things done in a natural way like when Jacob wanted to get spotted , or one color animals that he was tending to for his Father-in-law . (Gen.30:37) Now I'm really way off topic because this was a study about good angels. :headscratch

I like the audio studies because they really add to the points that are being made. I think the idea of the video is even better because then we have not only the voice reflections to clue us in but also adding the sense of sight to help us remember the studies and the expressions to give us clues to the meanings of what is being said. I think that is one of the problems that happens in forums misunderstandings of what was meant,emotionacons help with that though, but time helps that too. Also the time factor is important like you said , I haven't been here very long so it's hard to say if we are in agreement or not on some things because I don't know your teachings well enough to be really sure what you meant.

But I was taught that we are the sons of God mentioned in Job 38. us in our spiritual bodies , and that we agreed to come to earth born into the flesh (1Corin3:18) ( walking through the valley of the shadow of death) without knowledge of the first earth age in order to give the 1/3 that choose to follow satan a chance of their own free will to follow God instead of satan. Instead of God just destroying 1/3 of his children Deu.32:29 (Matt.10:28) ,He destroyed the first earth age (Jer.4:25 ). Then the 3rd earth age all evil is destroyed and all that is left is the new Heaven and new Earth with out the evil. In Ez.28:2,9 God calls satan (Tyrus, false rock Deu.32:31) a man. That the fallen angels refused to be born into the flesh but instead lusted after the flesh to create the giants ( like an attempt to have a foot in both dimensions ) and used their knowledge from the first earth age to enslave mankind on earth. (place themselves above the stars ( just like their leader satan in Isa.14:13) (God's stars/children
angels/sons of God, Rev.12:1,Gen.37:9, Gen.22:17,Deu 1:10 ,were also called trees in the same way Jud.9:8 and EZ.31:3 Ps.92:12, and figs Jer.24:2 and Rev.6:13) of heaven again , nothing new under the sun Ecc. 1:9) . Heb.2:14 as an example that God Himself wouldn't have us do anything He Himself wouldn't do. John 3:11 we speak of what we have seen . Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven. That knowing what we did in the first earth age either being part of fighting against satan or following satan could choose whom He did for His elect. Like predestination of some like Samson(Judges 13:5) or Jonah or even why God hated Esau before he was even born (Romans ch.9) (I think Esau is a type for satan, (Oba.1:4) That's why we aren't to judge 1Corn.4:5. were in darkness, without the knowledge of the first earth age. Jer.ch.4.

Any way that's how it was presented to me that we are angels before we are born and angels after we die. That our soul is the body for our spirit (like our flesh body and flesh brain) that our spirit is the brain of our soul. And both are placed inside this flesh body at conception by God.( Job 38:13-15 ) and at death returns to God (Ecc.12:6,7) That's the way I see the 23rd Psalm.